1. Don modified Packs to associate URI with pack, look up RODL to get contents. Sets groundwork for annotations
  2. Annotations in Pique's RO are single statement RDF graphs, so existing code will handle
  3. Stian and Khalid continuing with RO visualisations. Hope to have something to show users by Thursday. Initially static HTML
  4. Server outage caused by power failure (external to OeRC). Highlighted an issue with the servers – DDeR is chasing.
  5. RODL updated to fix performance issues.
  6. Questions about SPARQL update for DRN/DGC

33:53 Sean Bechhofer: Afternoon all.
34:14 Piotr Holubowicz: Hello
34:15 Don Cruickshank: hi
34:23 Sean Bechhofer: Are we ready to go?
34:32 Sean Bechhofer: I assume we're still with the 2:30 start?
34:44 Piotr Holubowicz: Ok for me
34:47 Don Cruickshank: i would prefer to start now
35:07 Sean Bechhofer: Ok.
35:22 Robert Haines: I am not available today, sorry
35:29 Robert Haines: however, I have no BioCat to report
35:41 Alan R Williams: Sorry - too busy
35:51 Sean Bechhofer: Ok. Thanks Rob. You'll get the call, but please ignore.
35:53 Don Cruickshank: i plan to be rather brief!
36:00 Sean Bechhofer: Call started, 25 minutes 22 seconds
36:30 Sean Bechhofer: BTW, Can I ask that someone post the meeting notes to the wf4ever wiki.
36:39 Sean Bechhofer: http://www.wf4ever-project.org/wiki/display/docs/myExperiment+Meetings
36:51 Sean Bechhofer: I've cut and pasted from last week, but it keeps a record.
37:30 Sean Bechhofer: Outstanding actions from last week?
37:49 Sean Bechhofer: Don: Last week work on wf4ever.
38:00 Sean Bechhofer: Modified packs to associate URI with pack.
38:13 Sean Bechhofer: Look uo RODL to get contents and things in the pack.
38:22 Sean Bechhofer: Groundwork for annotations to pack resources.
38:38 Sean Bechhofer: Next step: Add button to aggregate resoruces into packs.
38:44 Sean Bechhofer: Add anntoations on those resoruces.
39:00 Sean Bechhofer: Don: Looked at Pique's RO. No more complicated than Kristinas.
39:09 Sean Bechhofer: All annotation bodies single statement RDF graphs.
39:16 Sean Bechhofer: SO can handle with the exusting code.
39:31 Sean Bechhofer: Stian/Khalid have taken on the job of showing individula resources. May be rather broad!
39:40 Sean Bechhofer: Displaying wfdesc at the moment.
39:49 Sean Bechhofer: Server issues: Moved alpha and sandbox onto OeRC.
40:15 Sean Bechhofer: All of OeRC servers went down.
40:31 Sean Bechhofer: New servers are not where they were expected to be.
40:43 Sean Bechhofer: Not on a (good quality) UPS, stuck in a corner somewhere in OeRC.
40:50 Sean Bechhofer: Original plan to move myexp today.
40:58 Sean Bechhofer: Finn: Why did servers go down?
41:08 Sean Bechhofer: Don: General power failure. Outside their control.
41:11 Sean Bechhofer: Bad downtime stats!
41:22 Sean Bechhofer: Google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17xEW_NzOAUz_uS7vMwP0Gp4F5CchEh-E8hSaebHdCjU/edit
42:21 Sean Bechhofer: Google doc listing myExp management and infrastructure.
42:37 Sean Bechhofer: Don: Google apps closed off registration for free services.
42:52 Sean Bechhofer: Will have to move email sending service somewhere.
43:06 Don Cruickshank: maybe - i think it's the writing on the wall
43:17 Sean Bechhofer: Let's record this stuff in th google doc.
43:29 Sean Bechhofer: Plans?
43:39 Sean Bechhofer: Don: At the OS on Wed so wf4ever day on Friday.
44:19 Sean Bechhofer: Visualisation stuff with Khalid and Stian.
44:25 khalid.belhajjame: http://www.wf4ever-project.org/wiki/display/docs/Showcase+95+-+Displaying+ROs+in+MyExperiment
44:30 Sean Bechhofer: Khalid; Started work on visualisation.
44:43 Sean Bechhofer: WIki page mockup of RO and how it might be displayed. Will go through with Don.
44:54 Sean Bechhofer: Don asked how to get annotations from RDF>
44:54 khalid.belhajjame: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApNMHgxuYQR9dFpvRWRlNWNOUDR2VHBrVjJlZ3RENXc#gid=0
45:07 Sean Bechhofer: Khalid: Elements and how to get them.
45:31 Sean Bechhofer: ...guidelines as to which ontology to use for different annotations.
45:55 Sean Bechhofer: ...Stian also working on myExp UI also. Mockup of RO on the wiki page in ruby.
46:00 Sean Bechhofer: <Don has left the building>
46:22 Sean Bechhofer: <Stian?>
47:03 Sean Bechhofer: Stian: Roughl static HTML from whiteboard sketch. Users will no doubt have feedback. Connect up to RO model later via spreadsheet mapping.
47:09 Sean Bechhofer: Works to do the RDF queries.
47:13 Sean Bechhofer: Good ol' HTML.
47:24 Sean Bechhofer: Will try and put in FInn's tree and add this in a ox on the side.
47:26 khalid.belhajjame: by tree, Stian means the folder structure for the RO
47:32 Sean Bechhofer: s/ox/box
47:40 Sean Bechhofer: Pitor: Relationship to mockups so far?
47:47 Sean Bechhofer: Stian: Yes, integrating into myexp.
47:55 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Mockups in use case.
48:12 Sean Bechhofer: Khalid: Elements specified in the sheet are from the mockups defined by iusers.
48:22 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Great. Someone took the effort to integrte the mocukps.
48:43 Sean Bechhofer: Stian: Being careful in making wflow pagelook similar to how it is now.
49:06 Sean Bechhofer: Sean: When does this go backtothe users?
49:14 Sean Bechhofer: Stian: By the end of the showcase?
49:21 Sean Bechhofer: ...hopefully (smile)
49:25 Sean Bechhofer: by Thursday or so.
49:33 Sean Bechhofer: ...start with the boring ones.
50:25 Sean Bechhofer: 1,000,000 RO showcase from Dani?
50:51 Sean Bechhofer: Khalid: Dani liiasin with Rafa over myExp API.
50:55 Sean Bechhofer: ...will check for wiki page.
52:06 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Last week updated RODL to a quicker version. Small error on Friday. Fixed today. Annotation couldn't be found in triple store.
52:20 khalid.belhajjame: I just checked the showcase catalogue, there is no wiki page for the 100 ROs showcase
52:25 khalid.belhajjame: yet
52:27 Sean Bechhofer: Now correct. Should find it quicker. Don was woried about performance. Hopef that this will alleviate his concerns.
52:42 Sean Bechhofer: Stian: Finn worried about folder interaction?
54:46 Sean Bechhofer: Finn: Working on API fixes discovered by DW while trying to upload comp[onents to myExp.
54:46 Stian Soiland-Reyes: ... about (in)efficiency with multiple folders requesting from RODL - but it is not really that slow now - so optimize later
55:29 Sean Bechhofer: Sean: Question from SCAPE about SPARQL update.
55:41 Sean Bechhofer: ...need to liaise with DRN and DGC about.
56:00 Sean Bechhofer: ...SPARQL update only once a day.
56:21 Sean Bechhofer: ...they wanted fresher data.
56:55 Sean Bechhofer: ...RDF for conneg done on demand. Dump is not.
58:48 Sean Bechhofer: Next Week?
58:57 Sean Bechhofer: Finn not here, everyone else is around.
00:23 Sean Bechhofer: M/cr Meet 11:00 Thursday to discuss plenary.
01:01 Sean Bechhofer: AOB?
01:12 Sean Bechhofer: bye