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58:04 Sean Bechhofer: Afternoon all.
58:30 Finn Bacall: hi
58:51 Sean Bechhofer: Sean Bechhofer set topic to "3pm Combo Meet (22/10/12)"
00:10 Piotr Holubowicz: Hi
00:18 Don Cruickshank: hi
01:03 Sean Bechhofer: Minutes from last week: http://www.wf4ever-project.org/wiki/display/docs/121015+myExperiment+Meeting
01:31 Sean Bechhofer: I believe Carole is in an ELIXIR meeting. I'll start the call in a minute.
02:05 Sean Bechhofer: I see we have Don, Finn and Piotr so we should be able to discuss myExp.
02:33 Alan R Williams: I will listen in but probably not take part
04:08 Sean Bechhofer: 1. wf4ever showcases
04:25 Sean Bechhofer: 2. Server status
04:32 Sean Bechhofer: 3. AOB
04:43 Don Cruickshank: brb
06:00 Sean Bechhofer: Don – let me know when you're back and I'll start the call.
07:17 Don Cruickshank: back
07:18 Don Cruickshank: thanks
07:30 Sean Bechhofer: This message has been removed.
09:04 Sean Bechhofer: Sprints .
09:12 Sean Bechhofer: Sprint 83
09:24 Sean Bechhofer: Showcase 83.
09:54 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Developng supporint in server side. By end of sprint minimum required to creat a folder structure.
10:03 Sean Bechhofer: ...Ability to create RO with folder structures.
10:17 Sean Bechhofer: ...Not ppssible to manupulate and add items, but can create.
10:27 Sean Bechhofer: ...Finn working on display. Benchmark prepared by Stian.
10:56 Sean Bechhofer: Finn: Hopefully a chance of displauing something by Wednesday. Need someting to test against.
11:00 Sean Bechhofer: Pitor: tomorrow.
11:37 Sean Bechhofer: Sean: How much is completed?
11:50 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Just a couple of days more, so should be donw by the end of the week.
12:47 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Some comments to the RO model w.r.t. folder structure. Some discussions with Stian. Maybe some issues pending at the end of the sprint.
12:52 Sean Bechhofer: Sean: Is this a blocker?
13:05 Sean Bechhofer: Pitor: There is a workaround. Most related to finiding root in the folder structure.
13:12 Sean Bechhofer: ...most problematic to Finn.
13:28 Sean Bechhofer: Finn: Need root folders to know where to get thinsg from. Lazily loading.
13:50 Sean Bechhofer: Pitor: Workaround is to invent a modification ourselces. If the RO model chanegs and does something different then update needed.
14:17 Sean Bechhofer: Sean: Is this recorded somewhere?
14:21 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Not on the wiki.
14:28 Sean Bechhofer: ...might add it to the showcase wiki page.
14:54 Sean Bechhofer: Sean: Useful to have this recorded on the wiki.
15:17 Sean Bechhofer: Showcase 84. Improving RO Interface.
15:35 Sean Bechhofer: Don: Been creating annotaions and read them back, modifying.
15:43 Sean Bechhofer: ...Got everything needed from RODL using GRaham's code.
15:55 Sean Bechhofer: ...the rest is just UI and handling data. No real blockers.
16:07 Sean Bechhofer: ...ignoring the issue of folder structure. Will come afterwards
16:20 Sean Bechhofer: ...Likely that something will be there to show on Wednesday.
16:31 Sean Bechhofer: ...Not in the same world as Finn's demo.
16:47 Sean Bechhofer: ...Can't set annotations and see new style folder strcutrue.
17:28 Sean Bechhofer: Don: Only looking at Dublin Core entry fields.
17:33 Sean Bechhofer: ...so much more to add later.
18:09 Sean Bechhofer: Showcase 85: Improving performance.
18:51 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Last monday quicker version. Tuesday some updates. Slightly faster. Not much progress since then. working on upload of zipped ROs. Filip offline so not pushed to sandbox yet.
19:01 Sean Bechhofer: ...need to add support in RO Manager.
19:13 Sean Bechhofer: ...mught not have client by Wednesday.
19:22 Sean Bechhofer: ....if not, will be one of the tasks to tackle soon.
19:44 Sean Bechhofer: ...Not much effort. Should be pretty suimple. ZIpping up and then requesting uploiad.
20:15 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: returning to optimisation. Analysing whether tehre are places in dlibra than are slow and need work.
20:28 Sean Bechhofer: ...continue trying to optimise later this, month.
21:07 Sean Bechhofer: Sean: ETL showcase would need bulk upload.
21:16 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: priority even after sprint.
21:41 Sean Bechhofer: Showcase 86.
22:00 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Standup today. Reinout and Kristina are trying to check how to use RF.
22:28 Piotr Holubowicz: http://www.wf4ever-project.org/wiki/display/docs/Showcase+86+example+spreadsheet
22:36 Sean Bechhofer: ...some issue with the sheet that's been created by RF. Requested some support from Stuart and Katy.
22:56 Sean Bechhofer: ...wiki page has an example plus some questions relating to this.
23:31 Sean Bechhofer: Server status
23:48 Sean Bechhofer: Don: Will look this up.
25:14 Sean Bechhofer: Sean: Current sprint ending this week.
26:13 Sean Bechhofer: Don: Import my pack feature in sandbox.
26:26 Sean Bechhofer: ....Now being able to say here's an RO and here it is on myExperiment.
26:58 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Import wizard. Could import all the public packs.
27:22 Sean Bechhofer: ...uses the workflow extraction service.
27:49 Sean Bechhofer: ...If we make a showcase out of this. THink what exactly do we want to copy from myexp into ROs.
28:07 Sean Bechhofer: ...some functionality related to workflows. But doesn't copy other metadata.
28:15 Sean Bechhofer: ...Would be worht importing more metadata.
28:41 Sean Bechhofer: Sean: Showcase task would be scoping the metadata to pull out.
29:21 Sean Bechhofer: Piotr: Might also want to automate. It's a wizard rght now.
29:37 Sean Bechhofer: Don: Could push from myexp. Script it.
37:23 Piotr Holubowicz: The call is on hold, right?
37:28 Don Cruickshank: yes
37:31 Piotr Holubowicz: Ok
37:35 Don Cruickshank: need smooth jazz
37:41 Piotr Holubowicz: (smile)
38:38 Alan R Williams: Vivaldi
45:06 Sean Bechhofer: Sorry about that!
45:18 Sean Bechhofer: back now.
45:19 Don Cruickshank: ok
46:09 Sean Bechhofer: Sean: There is some functionlaity with the wizards, but it needs some work to allow bulk and to push from myexp.
46:22 Sean Bechhofer: ...that scopes a potential showcase nicely.
46:55 Sean Bechhofer: Don: Last email was that they aimed to install the service by last week.
46:59 Sean Bechhofer: ...not heard anything.
47:09 Sean Bechhofer: ...(message from Dave De Roure)
47:23 Sean Bechhofer: AOB?
48:17 Sean Bechhofer: We're done.

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